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#157: AI and Church Leadership: A Theological Framework for Human Flourishing

Wes Granberg-Michaelson shares insights from five decades of church leadership about why tending your inner life is essential for sustainable ministry.

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AI and church leadership are colliding in ways that demand theological clarity. Dr. Paul Hoffman, author of AI Shepherds and Electric Sheep, joins hosts Terri Elton and Dwight Zscheile to offer a framework for discernment: How might artificial intelligence help or hinder human flourishing? And what does human flourishing mean when we’re created in the image of God? Paul brings both pastoral experience and academic rigor to questions many church leaders are facing: Should AI write sermons? How do we shepherd people forming relationships with chatbots? What embodied practices can help our congregations stay grounded in an increasingly digital world?

Rather than embracing technological solutions or rejecting them entirely, Paul invites church leaders into curiosity and theological reflection. He explores which ministry tasks AI can genuinely assist with and which require irreplaceable human presence. From the incarnation of Jesus to the gathered worship of Christian community, Paul helps us see what technology can never touch and why embodiment matters more than ever. Whether your congregation is already experimenting with AI or you’re just beginning these conversations, this episode offers practical wisdom for shepherding your people through this cultural shift.

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Featuring

Headshot of Paul Hoffman
Paul Hoffman
Associate Professor, Director Preministerial Scholars at Samford University in Birmingham, Alabama

A native of Maine, Hoffman began his ministry as an ordained church planter with the Conservative Baptist Association, now known as the Venture Church Network, in Denver, Colorado. He most recently served for 18 years as senior pastor of Evangelical Friends Church in Newport, Rhode Island. Hoffman is ordained in both the Conservative Baptist Association and the Evangelical Friends Church tradition.

He holds degrees from Gordon College, Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary and earned his PhD from the University of Manchester in the United Kingdom.

An accomplished author, Hoffman has written or coauthored three books: Reconciling PlacesPreaching to a Divided Nation and AI Shepherds and Electric Sheep. His academic interests include homiletics, ecclesiology, reconciliation, urban mission and the ethics of artificial intelligence.

Hoffman and his wife, Autumn, have been married for 26 years. They have two sons, Landon, 19, and Kelan, 15. In his free time, he enjoys reading, traveling, exercising, spending time with his family and following Premier League soccer.

Hosts

Faith+Lead Headshot of The Rev. Dr. Dwight Zscheile, VP of Innovation, Luther Seminary.
Dwight Zscheile
Professor of Congregational Mission and Leadership, Luther Seminary, St. Paul, Minnesota

Dwight Zscheile is professor of congregational mission and leadership at Luther Seminary. His latest books are The Starter’s Way (with Ed Olsworth-Peter) and Embracing the Mixed Ecology (with Blair Pogue).

Terri Elton
Dean of Academic Affairs and Professor of Leadership, Luther Seminary, St. Paul, Minnesota

The Rev. Dr. Terri Martinson Elton began teaching at Luther Seminary as an adjunct instructor in 2004 before becoming the director of the Center for Children, Youth and Family Ministry in 2008. In addition to her continued work with the Center, Elton accepted the position of associate professor of Children, Youth and Family Ministry in 2010 and associate professor of Leadership in 2014.

Prior to her call to Luther Seminary, Elton served as an associate to the bishop in the Saint Paul Area Synod where her responsibilities included working with congregations, leadership development, First Call theological education and youth and family ministry.

Elton holds a B.A. degree in communications from Concordia College in Moorhead, Minn. (1986). She earned both her M.A. (1998) and Ph.D. (2007) degrees in Congregational Mission and Leadership from Luther Seminary.

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Featuring

Headshot of Paul Hoffman
Paul Hoffman
Associate Professor, Director Preministerial Scholars at Samford University in Birmingham, Alabama

A native of Maine, Hoffman began his ministry as an ordained church planter with the Conservative Baptist Association, now known as the Venture Church Network, in Denver, Colorado. He most recently served for 18 years as senior pastor of Evangelical Friends Church in Newport, Rhode Island. Hoffman is ordained in both the Conservative Baptist Association and the Evangelical Friends Church tradition.

He holds degrees from Gordon College, Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary and earned his PhD from the University of Manchester in the United Kingdom.

An accomplished author, Hoffman has written or coauthored three books: Reconciling PlacesPreaching to a Divided Nation and AI Shepherds and Electric Sheep. His academic interests include homiletics, ecclesiology, reconciliation, urban mission and the ethics of artificial intelligence.

Hoffman and his wife, Autumn, have been married for 26 years. They have two sons, Landon, 19, and Kelan, 15. In his free time, he enjoys reading, traveling, exercising, spending time with his family and following Premier League soccer.

Hosts

Faith+Lead Headshot of The Rev. Dr. Dwight Zscheile, VP of Innovation, Luther Seminary.
Dwight Zscheile
Professor of Congregational Mission and Leadership, Luther Seminary, St. Paul, Minnesota

Dwight Zscheile is professor of congregational mission and leadership at Luther Seminary. His latest books are The Starter’s Way (with Ed Olsworth-Peter) and Embracing the Mixed Ecology (with Blair Pogue).

Terri Elton
Dean of Academic Affairs and Professor of Leadership, Luther Seminary, St. Paul, Minnesota

The Rev. Dr. Terri Martinson Elton began teaching at Luther Seminary as an adjunct instructor in 2004 before becoming the director of the Center for Children, Youth and Family Ministry in 2008. In addition to her continued work with the Center, Elton accepted the position of associate professor of Children, Youth and Family Ministry in 2010 and associate professor of Leadership in 2014.

Prior to her call to Luther Seminary, Elton served as an associate to the bishop in the Saint Paul Area Synod where her responsibilities included working with congregations, leadership development, First Call theological education and youth and family ministry.

Elton holds a B.A. degree in communications from Concordia College in Moorhead, Minn. (1986). She earned both her M.A. (1998) and Ph.D. (2007) degrees in Congregational Mission and Leadership from Luther Seminary.