Pivot Podcast

About Pivot Podcast

Over the past few years, church leaders have been forced to respond to several global crises in the blink of an eye. In a moment with little information and lots of uncertainty, churches reinvented nearly every aspect of church.

Season 4 of the Pivot podcast provides lessons and stories from church leaders who are igniting imagination, creating collaborations, launching experiments, and dreaming of new possibilities for God’s church. It focuses on two questions: How might we use the uncertainty and disruption of this time to reimagine church, ministry, and leadership? And how might the Christian faith be a resource for making spiritual sense of current realities and leaning into the future that is emerging?


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4.45: Cultivating Leaders for the Mixed Ecology

September 4, 2023

Hosts Terri Elton, Dee Stokes, and Dwight Zscheile reflect on the past season.

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4.44: How to Cultivate the Mixed Ecology in a Regional Church System with Calla Gilson

September 4, 2023

Terri Elton and Dee Stokes welcome Calla Gilson.

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4.43: How to Get Started in the Mixed Ecology in a Local Church with Roz Picardo

September 4, 2023

Terri Elton and Dee Stokes welcome Dr. Rosario Picardo.

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4.42: Rural Fresh Expressions with Kerri Meyer

September 4, 2023

Terri Elton and Dwight Zscheile welcome Rev. Kerri Meyer.

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4.41: The Role of Church Planting in the Mixed Ecology with Wole Agbaje

September 4, 2023

Terri Elton and Dwight Zscheile welcome minister and leader of IMPRINT Church London, Wole Agbaje.

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4.40: Introducing Dinner Church with JD Larson

September 4, 2023

Hosts Dr. Dee stokes and Dwight Zscheile welcome church planter of North City Church, JD Larson.

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4.39: How the Inherited and Innovative Church Work Together with Jorge Acevedo

April 11, 2023

In episode 39, co-hosts Terri Elton and Dwight Zscheile talk with Jorge Acevedo.

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4.38: Practicing Fresh Expressions with Jonny Baker

April 4, 2023

Pivot co-hosts Terri Elton and Dwight Zscheile talk with guest Jonny Baker

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4.37: The Mixed Ecology in Christian History with Jennie Wojciechowski

March 27, 2023

Pivot co-hosts Terri Elton and Dwight Zscheile talk with Jennie Wojciechowski

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4.36: The Mixed Ecology in the US with Michael Beck

March 21, 2023

Pivot co-hosts Dee Stokes and Dwight Zscheile talk with Michael Beck.

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4.35: Where Did Fresh Expressions Come From? Learning from the UK with Michael Moynagh

March 14, 2023

Pivot co-hosts Terri Elton and Dwight Zscheile talk with Dr. Michael Moynagh.

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4.34 Introducing the Mixed Ecology and Why It Matters

March 7, 2023

Pivot co-hosts Terri Elton, Dwight Zscheile, and Dr. Dee Stokes kick off our fourth season.

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Meet Your Hosts

  • Dwight Zscheile

    Dwight Zscheile is Vice President of Innovation and Professor of Congregational Mission and Leadership at Luther Seminary. He has authored or co-authored several books, including Leading Faithful Innovation: Following God into a Hopeful Future, The Agile Church: Spirit-Led Innovation in an Uncertain Age, and The Missional Church in Perspective: Mapping Trends and Shaping the Conversation.

    A graduate of Stanford University (BA), Yale University (MDiv) and Luther Seminary (PhD, Congregational Mission and Leadership), Dwight previously served congregations in Minnesota, Virginia and Connecticut. Dwight’s experience growing up in a secular home in California has shaped his commitment to helping the church cultivate Christian community with neighbors in today’s changing world.

  • Terri Elton

    Terri is a teacher who loves Jesus and God’s world. She currently is a Professor of Leadership and Dean of Academic Affairs at Luther Seminary, but has also served in congregations and non-profit settings. In her free time, Terri loves to bike and explore nature. She, along with her husband Eric, believes the world is interesting and together they travel to different cultures and places as often as they can.

  • Dr. Dee Stokes

    Dr. Dee Stokes is a lover of Jesus and strives to love others like Jesus does and see them as they are in the image of God. She also loves deep conversations, and Dr. Dee Stokes is an entrepreneurial minister, educator, consultant, and program builder. In each of her diverse branches of work, she aims to repurpose organizations and support influential people who change the world and live out the Gospel.

    Dr. Stokes serves as the Teaching Pastor at Christ Wesleyan Church in Greensboro, North Carolina; as the Director of Multicultural Ministry for the NC East District of The Wesleyan Church; as the President and CEO of her own non-profit ministry; and as the Director of the Seeds Project for Luther Seminary's Faith+Lead innovation team. She holds multiple degrees with focuses ranging from Educational Leadership (Ed.S. & Ed.D.) to Biblical and Theological Foundations (MBTF), and is a dedicated and devoted follower of Jesus whose deepest wish is for everyone to experience the Gospel in their lives!