5.66: Exploring Pastoral Leadership Models: Part-Time is Plenty

Explore effective ministry, discipleship, and the Holy Spirit's guidance in today's dynamic landscape.

Ever wondered what effective church ministry looks like with just half or quarter-time clergy? This is the reality for many churches today, and that trend is only increasing. Today’s guest is a bivocational pastor and author who discovered that shifting from full to part time clergy leadership actually led to healthy churches in numerous congregations. Join us to hear more about effective part time ministry, discipleship, bivocational ministry, and trusting the holy spirit’s activity today.

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Jeff MacDonald

G. Jeffrey MacDonald is a solutions journalist, UCC pastor, church educator and consultant. His work helps mainline congregations do better while leveraging fewer resources and less staff. His most recent book is Part-Time is Plenty: Thriving without Full-Time Clergy (Westminster John Knox, 2020). To learn more, visit gjeffreymacdonald.com

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  • Alicia Granholm

    Alicia Granholm is senior director of Faith+Lead and a leadership and church consultant based in Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA. She helps pastors and leaders engage culture to make a lasting impact. For nearly two decades, she has trained, equipped, and empowered followers of Jesus to engage their local communities by contextualizing the Gospel and its application. Alicia compassionately crosses cultural boundaries having lived, studied, traveled, and served in 25 countries on six continents. Alicia has a Doctor of Strategic Leadership, Global Consulting (Regent University), MDiv (Bethel Seminary), and MA in Teaching (University of St. Thomas).

  • Dwight Zscheile

    Dwight Zscheile is vice president of innovation and professor of congregational mission and leadership at Luther Seminary. His latest book is Leading Faithful Innovation: Following God into a Hopeful Future (with Michael Binder and Tessa Pinkstaff, Fortress Press, 2023).

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