5.73: Unity in the Church When it Feels Impossible

Discover ancient practices to find unity in Christ. Watch the latest Pivot podcast for guidance on uniting amidst differences.

Not sure how to experience unity in Christ when there is so much division? Watch this pivot podcast interview and learn how to experience unity in the church even when it feels impossible.

Experiencing deep disagreements, differences, or divides in your church? There are ancient spiritual practices church leaders and pastors can engage in to help their churches experience more unity in Christ today. In John 17, Jesus prays for unity; unity in the church matters to God. Watch this Pivot podcast interview to learn how to focus on following Jesus together in the midst of differences and division in your church.

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Jon Anderson

Jon Anderson

Pastor Jon Anderson serves as Director of Rural Ministry at Luther Seminary. He recently completed eighteen years of service as bishop in the Southwestern Minnesota Synod of the ELCA.

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David Anglada

Pastor A. David Anglada (he/his) serves as the Senior Director for Leadership within The Christian Community and Leadership, home area-ELCA.

David has been an ordained Pastor of Word and Sacrament in the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America for 27 years. David has served numerous parishes throughout New York City. He has also served as Assistant to Bishop / Director for Evangelical Outreach in the Metropolitan New York Synod, the Florida-Bahamas Synod, and Program Director for Multicultural Leadership, ELCA, Chicago, Ill.

Meet Your Hosts

  • Terri Elton

    Terri is a teacher who loves Jesus and God’s world. She currently is a Professor of Leadership and Dean of Academic Affairs at Luther Seminary, but has also served in congregations and non-profit settings. In her free time, Terri loves to bike and explore nature. She, along with her husband Eric, believes the world is interesting and together they travel to different cultures and places as often as they can.

  • Dwight Zscheile

    Dwight Zscheile is vice president of innovation and professor of congregational mission and leadership at Luther Seminary. His latest book is Leading Faithful Innovation: Following God into a Hopeful Future (with Michael Binder and Tessa Pinkstaff, Fortress Press, 2023).