5.75: How to have Spiritual Conversations with Your Neighbors: Let’s Talk about the Difference Jesus Makes

Discover how to talk about Jesus with neighbors of different beliefs with guests Danielle Cummings and Mike Wu.

Wondering how to have good conversations about your Christian faith with neighbors and friends who aren’t Christian? Many of us can think of examples of how not to do this. But how can we do it lovingly, faithfully, and respectfully? Church leaders often ask us, “how can I help people in my congregation have good spiritual conversations with their neighbors?.”

Watch this Pivot podcast interview to learn from an artist and evangelist working in New York City among secular artists as well as a church planter in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. If you want to learn how to talk about Jesus with your neighbors who are spiritual but not religious, tune into this episode and discover how to share the difference Jesus makes in your life.

Show Notes:


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Danielle Cummings

Rev. Danielle Cummings is the very extroverted, very excitable director of ReNew York, a NYC arts ministry under A.C.T Int’l. She’s an aspiring novelist and an award-winning playwright with a B.A. in English from UT Austin and an M.A. in “Ministry in the Global City” from City Seminary of New York. She actually grew up in a Chinese church and as a result was discipled by Asian American faith leaders. She loves communication, event-planning and above maybe everything else, learning from people who think differently. Her ministry is mostly relational care, but she and her ministry partner Amy Pan also host at least two events each month: one to equip Christian artists and one to respond to art (eg: movie night) with an interfaith spiritual discussion. Ask her about New York City, hand-copying the Bible, or her amazing friends!

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Mike Wu

Mike Wu is a Chinese-Australian pastor, vocational coach, and church planter pioneering the Journey in Kuala Lumpur. He was born in Shanghai, raised in Melbourne, and worked in banking and strategy consulting before seminary in the US.

Meet Your Host

  • Dwight Zscheile

    Dwight Zscheile is vice president of innovation and professor of congregational mission and leadership at Luther Seminary. His latest book is Leading Faithful Innovation: Following God into a Hopeful Future (with Michael Binder and Tessa Pinkstaff, Fortress Press, 2023).

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